Authorities first got a call around 5:47 p.m. Tuesday of a plane flying low, then disappearing, Johnsons said. Cameron Parish and Calcasieu Parish authorities worked throughout the night investigating the crash, but are turning over the investigation to a Federal Aviation Administration crew out of Baton Rouge and a National Transportation Safety Board team out of Dallas. Hes just one of those people you cant replace.. It would seem the elevator itself could be jammed instead. LAKE CHARLES, La. whatever you told him to study, he studied it. Don't get taken in by the constant criticism of NTSB and FAA efforts. The Cessna 182Q then departed again at 5:13 p.m. and crashed 31 minutes later at 5:44 p.m. Other questions:subscriberservices@theadvocate.com. Rock Palermo and Don Clements were killed in a plane crash near Hackberry, on Tuesday, Feb. 2, 2021. Nose down attitude would be even more likely that the pilots were fixated on full aft elevator. (KPLC) - Two bodies have been recovered from the wreckage of a plane that went down near Hackberry Tuesday, Cameron Sheriff Don Johnson said. Besides being a talented musician, Don loved to travel, hike, fish and hunt. woman accused of using aunts debit card for 136 DoorDash orders held on preset $18 million bond, Juvenile injured after homemade pipe bomb detonated, police say. Watch the 2 Your Health report for Thursday, Watch the 2 Your Health report for Tuesday, Crawfish Tracker: Signs of life (and price drops). Nothing in the report suggests "airplane attitude was flat with nose close to the horizon. Bold criminal secretly relaunched massage parlor prostitution ring as he cut a Federal, local dollars at work clearing waterways in EBR. Winds will ease into the evening. Mancuso was visibly upset by his passing as spoke to those assembled, "He is one of those people you can't replace.". 0:00. But it is accidents like this that really perplex me and keep me up at night. He was preceded in death by his father, Joseph R. Palermo, Jr. Rock delighted in all things involving his family. The men say Palermo brought them on board the CPSO Aviation Division and add, they will miss him tremendously. Rock Palermo and Don Clements were killed in the crash, Johnson said. Don was dearly loved by the entire Shaddock family, numerous relatives and friends. It may have required tools to get it out of the ground. Probable causes are generally given in final reports, which can take a year or more. There is an FAA order (8020-11D) that outlines the entire concept of the hand-off of certain accident investigations. AD is for problems that showed up on the tail draggers.Models 182 through 182D airplanes have the same tailcone design as Model 185-series tail draggers. Daniel Dal Zennaro/EPA-EFE/Shutt. Records show that the days first flight ended about 2:36 p.m. CG forward of the forward limit? GREENVILLE, S.C. - No. On Sept. 10, the plane, a Aerofab Lake LA-4-250, N1401P was found near the . After initiating a turn to return to the airport, the aircraft eventually descended into, or attempted to ditch into, the ocean a mile offshore. Rock Palermo and Don Clements were killed in the crash, Johnson said. This is preliminary information, subject to change, and may contain errors. Based solely on the description of the situation, sounds to me like they decided to try to do a slow roll and screwed it up. The National Transportation Safety Board tweeted Wednesday that it was investigating the crash but would not travel to the site. You made some very astute observations focused on elevator issues, compounded by the possible loss of a blade. The Veron Bice family is saddened by the loss of our founding partner, Rock Palermo. Don and his wife, Nancy chaired the Big Lake Invitational Fishing Tournament for many years. He can then use it becoming "lost" to push the "NTSB is at fault for not being on site" canard. ADVERTISEMENT. He was a member of the Civil Air Patrol, the United States Air Force Auxiliary, and held the rank of Colonel. Anyone who cared about the families and somehow detected the blade, would not rest until investigators obtained the blade. File photo of police lights (iStockPhoto). We appreciate everyone's prayers Clements was a financial planner with Global Asset Management. Accused murderer cleared by Baton Rouge jury after representing himself in court, released from jail, School accused of ignoring sexual misconduct of student later arrested in high-profile rape case. In addition to holding the prestigious Certified Financial Planner certificate, Don held advanced designations in the field of retirement income planning, RICP, and retirement plans, CRPC. CG issue may be it. They are using COVID as an excuse to be LAZY and not work. Baton Rouge man arrested in Ascension horse theft; one adult, two minors Southern University AgCenter's Livestock Show celebrates its 80th anniversary, St. John's big inning hands Southeastern second straight loss, Coach Kim Mulkey talks LSU's record-tying season. Other questions:subscriberservices@theadvocate.com. He was a partner in the firm of Veron, Bice, Palermo & Wilson in Lake Charles, and he was a founding member of the Judge Albert Tate Inn of Court. The intentional lie about finding the missing blade showed how little regard for their loss the tuber actually has. Palermo was an instructor on the flight and Clements was a student. Dr. Kevin Dupke, the Cameron Parish coroner, said he was at the crash site Wednesday with federal investigators and could not confirm the second mans name. The third blade was recovered at the crash site, just not by the "NTSB" Who ever recovered the airplane did not do a thorough enough job. On January 30, 1993, Don married the love of his life, Nancy Edith Shaddock Clements, at the First United Methodist Church in Lake Charles, LA. Don Clement's will be having a visitation from 12 p.m. to 3 p.m. on Saturday . As a result of inadequate maintenance, the aircraft's No. They were aboard a 1979 Cessna 182Q, of which Clements had recently become part owner of. The 182Q N4765N accident aircraft does not have the tailcone design that the AD applies to. You have permission to edit this article. Straight line from where? The tail plane remained, perhaps, in an out of stall all the way to the ground. Could forward CG tail stall and slow airspeed be maintained (full aft elevator, lack of elevator authority) all the way to the ground with nose down? He was in the back seat of the airplane the day before when the two accidents pilots were conducting a training flight. No matter how much his soul hates the NTSB, only a cruel ghoul would leave the wreck site without making sure the blade got into hands-on possession of the local FSDO. I missed the nose down attitude observed by witnesses. Plane nosedived 15 feet into the ground, according to NTSB report on Hackberry plane crash. Clements, 61, was flying alone from Alberta, Canada, to California on Feb. 22, 2015. But a 182Q isn't a 737Max.. couldn't the pilot overcome a stuck trim with elevator input? 6. (KPLC) -The National Transportation Safety Board is investigating the deadly crash that claimed the life of two well known citizens in our area. His 25 pound mass half scale model Spacewalker is just six percent of half the mass of the 800 lb full scale Spacewalker. But, if it were to happen that fast, it would be likely that they would have smelled exhaust in time to do something about it. Kilimanjaro. In the N3RB accident, the tuber wrongly asserted that the pilot murdered a co-pilot.Unfortunately, those enthusiastic followers who ignore the tuber's established pattern of false claims and obvious click baiting don't care about defined NTSB/FAA roles or delegation.The biggest tell of the whole charade is exploitation of the accident victim's loved ones. MOON TOWNSHIP, Pa. Greater Pittsburgh Airport was still considered new when the regularly scheduled TWA Flight 400 crashed on Easter Sunday in 1956. The 1972 Puerto Rico DC-7 crash was an aviation accident that occurred on December 31, 1972, in Carolina, Puerto Rico. This material may not be published, broadcast, rewritten, or redistributed. The Veron Bice family is saddened by the loss of our founding partner, Rock Palermo. Authorities first got a call around 5:47 p.m. Tuesday of a plane flying low, then disappearing, Cameron Parish Sheriff Don Johnson said Tuesday evening. The plane, a single-engine Cessna 182 four-seater, crashed on a small island between Hackberry and Big Lake, near Pete Seay Circle. This is the perfect weekend to get outdoors! The engine sustained significant impact damage and was saturated with mud. Authorities are investigating after a jet from Luke Air Force Base crashed near Buckeye north of the White Tank Mountains on Thursday morning, according to Sean Clements, a . Cameron Sheriff: Two bodies recovered from plane crash near Hackberry, La. In fact, during his training with Palermo, Kerbow says there was an emergency. That's all!!!! ADS-B data 4,325 feet @ Latitude, Longitude: 29.9898 -93.3416Wreckage and Impact Information @Latitude, Longitude: 30.009412,-93.330048 (est)A straight line from Latitude, Longitude: 29.9898 -93.3416 to 30.009412,-93.330048 (est) is calculated @ 1.28 miles , 2.07 kilometers (km) , 6785 feet , 2068 meters. Copyright 2021 KPLC. Copyright 2021 KPLC. The Tigers beat out No. Look it up. Sorting out the problem and making a timely decision to get on the trim control would certainly be a challenge in that scenario. Philip Clements, a 62-year-old Chester Township man, was killed in the crash and was the lone passenger on the plane. Sheriff Ron Johnson told KPLC that the plane crashed on a small island between Hackberry and Big Lake, near Pete Seay Circle. Shortly after stopping at Felts Field to refuel, his Piper Malibu Mirage crashed north of East Sprague. Is it possible that there was carbon monoxide asphyxiation putting both pilots to sleep? At the time of his death, Don was a partner in the Global Asset Management Group (Raymond James) in Lake Charles, LA. A man who was the pilot and attorney for a southwest Louisiana sheriffs office and a second person were killed when their small plane crashed in a neighboring parish, apparently during a flying lesson. Im not saying thats what happened, just a theory and my original gut feeling of what might have happened, but it is a theory that seems consistent with the facts. NORTH PLATTE, Neb. 4 LSU women's basketball Watch the 2 Your Health report for Friday, March 3, 2023. HACKBERRY, La. BATON ROUGE - Friday, the LSU Tigers participated in the Podium Challenge, a gymnastics club meet featuring teams from California, Washington and George Washington Universities. Palermo was an instructor on the flight and Clements was a student. Speaking with Cameron Sheriff Don Johnson, KPLC reports that Johnson said the bodies are believed to be Rock Palermo and Richard Don Clements. Two bodies were recovered from the wreckage. "It is a great loss for the department and the entire community," officials said at a press conference, "It didn't matter the time of day or night who was in trouble, if it was in another parish and they needed our plane he would jump in and take over.". The plane has crashed near Hackberry in Cameron Parish on Tuesday night. At the time of his death, Don was a partner in the Global Asset Management Group (Raymond James) in Lake Charles, LA. 1 LSU's big win over Butler. No obvious reason so far for not pulling out from the dive. The Martin 404 aircraft was heading to . There is a long standing agreement between the NTSB and the FAA that the NTSB, because of being short-staffed, has the official authority and do relegate most general aviation accidents solely to the FAA. The empennage was crushed and distorted. During a news conference livestreamed by the station, Mancuso said that when talking with Palermos wife, I joked that Rock was only an attorney so he could have a hobby of being a policeman and a pilot. I suggested this in comments a couple of other places, and every time I've gotten ripped on about how wrong I was, and I probably am wrong, but I had a gut feeling about this when I first heard of it, two guys in a modern regular nothing special airplane doing minor training, returning to the airport, aircraft was 4,000 AGL then inexplicably nosedives into the ground, severe clear visibility calm winds, no obvious weather or mechanical reason for the crash. As an. Well I guess everything is possible until we know for sure: suicide, murder, kamikaze, paranormal activity, higher calling, medical, etc. Forward CG would make the scenario begin as you describe, but airspeed increase in a dive from 4500 restores elevator authority with plenty of altitude remaining. Palermo was an instructor on the flight and Clements was a student. Observation Facility, Elevation: KLCH,9 ft msl, Distance from Accident Site: 9 Nautical Miles, Wind Speed/Gusts, Direction: 4 knots / , 200, Latitude, Longitude: 30.009412,-93.330048 (est). (KPLC) - Two bodies have been recovered from the wreckage of a plane that went down near Hackberry Tuesday, Cameron Sheriff Don Johnson said. The report said two of the propellers three blades were on the hub at the nose of the plane, but the third was not found. It is a risk that we accept as we enjoy the thrill of flying. The Cessna 182Q Skylane II tends to glide well all things considered, even if the engine wasn't rotating as in, it'd not tailover like that. Then there is the possibility of an elevator control malfunction, causing a nose down attitude. The plane took off at 9 p.m. and the sounds of engine failure were heard as it went down the runway. He serves on the LSU Law Center Trial Advocacy faculty. Cameron Parish and Calcasieu Parish authorities worked throughout the night investigating the crash, but are turning over the investigation to a Federal Aviation Administration crew out of Baton Rouge and a National Transportation Safety Board team out of Dallas. An uncontrollable dive in an otherwise intact 182 certainly brings the elevator performance into the picture.Thanks for including the link to the FAA's "Dirty Dozen" of human-factor issues related to maintenance practices - good reading for 182 owners. Rock touched many, many people and this is about as tough a loss as you can get for this office and this community, Mancuso said. That person told investigators he was in the back seat during a training flight on Feb. 1, and the man had done well on flight maneuvers. Dive overspeed certainly could toss the blade. The plane, a single-engine Cessna 182, crashed on a small island between Hackberry and Big Lake, LA. They will update with funeral arrangements and honors at a future date. An obituary for Rock Palermo can be found HERE. This is the type of crash that likely catches LOTS of self-aware pilots' attentionInre your (Winchman's) observation/question noted in the 1st paragraph, writing as a (never-used-for-income) aerospace-engineering-degreed, ~2600-hr glider-only pilot who also 'messed around w. RC gliders', one 'obvious difference' between RC power planes and full-sized ones is what I'll call 'prop-disc-area/mass ratio' differences, with the RC 'ratio' being considerably higher than that for man-carrying (182) equivalents. Don Clements will be having a visitation from 12 p.m. to 3 p.m. on Saturday, February 6, and funeral at 3 p.m. Click here to see Calcasieu Parish Sheriff Tony Mancuso and District Attorney Stephen Dwight speak about what it was like to know Rock Palermo. Id say he just wasnt able to retrieve from wherever it was. Rocks the best pilot I ever met, said Thompson. In a typical configuration, it has 178 seats . NTSB, do your job. The youtube guy's 3rd dramatic video came out but has no photo or any mention about the missing blade. This one is just tough.". Again scratching head. I had a nearly half-scale Spacewalker that weighed only 25 pounds. An obituary for Rock Palermo can be found HERE. The flight was operated as a Title 14 Code of Federal Regulations Part 91 instructional flight. NTSB should already know if that was evident.Still a head scratcher. Correct! Spokane police video captures emergency response to Michael Clements' crash. The airplane wing never stalled but remained at a high angle of attack just above stall. Another partial owner of the plane told investigators that the pilot had just bought a share of the aircraft and was accumulating flight hours to get rated for complex and high-performance planes, according to the report. Many parts and pieces were left behind at the crash site, including the third blade!! Just one comment, not trying to be judgmental. The Untold Story of Roberto Clemente's Plane Crash Litigation by John Racanelli January 7, 2014 The Fatal Crash Roberto Clemente was both a remarkable ballplayer and genuine folk hero. Two witnesses told investigators that the plane plunged nose-down, without any rotation. If so, the wreckage would bear witness to that once the mud is removed. On February 2, 2021, at 1744 central standard time, a Cessna 182, N4765N, was destroyed when it was involved in an accident near Hackberry, Louisiana. Romanian billionaire Dan Petrescu and his family were killed in . The reason for its quick descent, the NTSB said, was. Don was passionate about helping clients prepare financially for their best life possible. HACKBERRY, La. Youll never convince me other than it was a catastrophic failure of the aircraft because Rock knew exactly what to do, said Thompson. 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Authorities first got a call around 5:47 p.m. Tuesday of a plane flying low, then disappearing, Cameron Parish Sheriff Don Johnson said Tuesday evening. They consider him a mentor and the best pilot they knew. I think its a possibility that needs to be explored by people who know a whole lot more about it than I do. Port Allen Pelicans basketball team soaring toward fourth-straight state title, Sample duo leading Scotlandville into playoffs, For help accessing the WBRZ-TV Public File, contact: Joey Verrett at, LSU gymnastics club meet brings tourists to downtown Baton Rouge. Don graduated with a Bachelor of Science in Accounting from Louisiana Tech University. The Global Asset Management Group family is saddened by the loss of our dearest friend and colleague, Don Clements. Detailed metalurgical examination of the two blades and hub for known indicators of overspeed may be able to differentiate loss of blade in normal flight from loss by overspeed. The wings had separated from the fuselage and were crushed aft to the rear wing spar. [3] Clements-Mann graduated from Texas Tech University in 1968 and received her medical degree from the University of Texas in 1972. I need to wait for Dan (you? Don was a talented guitarist and was a treasured member of the worship team at First United Methodist Church. The Tigers beat out No. And he was good at all three of them.. It's really hard to get a C-182 out of CG. Would like to ask for a line of discussion about the lack of a mayday call, which hasn't been previously discussed in this thread. Prior to his career as a Financial Advisor, Don worked as a trader in the energy business, and as a CPA in a public accounting firm. That's why this case caught my attention. This proposed AD would require inspecting the tailcone and horizontal stabilizer for corrosion and cracks and repairing or replacing damaged parts as necessary. Hes just one of those people you cant replace.. He could not have been prouder of his children. HACKBERRY, La. The weekend will start with temperatures 20 degrees lower than Friday morning! It would be interesting to see the state of the elevator trim. This is certainly one of the most mysterious 182 crashes in recent history. You keep flying the airplane. Calcasieu Parish Sheriff Tony Mancuso spoke at a press conference on Wednesday morning. 7 California, No. Paul Skenes fans a career high 13 in No. The sales broker for the plane told investigators that on the day of the crash, the pilot reported completing a one-hour flight to meet insurance policy requirements. The Boeing 737, which had flown from Dubai, skidded off the runway . Wednesday afternoon, a procession was held as Palermo was brought to a Jennings funeral home, click here for more. It gave a number of details about the circumstances of the flight but did not indicate what caused the crash. It flew great with a two-blade prop. The families have been notified, the sheriff said. Hackberry, LA (KPLC) - The National Transportation Safety Board has released the report on its investigation of a deadly plane crash in Hackberry. I'd expect the model to be MUCH more sensitive to 'prop-disc-effects' than the man-carrying versionwhich is not to suggest they don't exist for a full-sized C-182.
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